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sunshineinchains (Monday 1st of December 2008 05:39:25 AM)

What's all this now? We's all God's chilluns.

irishprideyank (Monday 1st of December 2008 12:21:26 AM)

Look, it's just something I can identify with and makes me feel good. I'm proud of the accomplishments people like my dad have made in this country, and around the world. The Irish along with the Jews are some of the most dispersed people, and I take pride in the fact that my forefathers who came from a tiny island oppressed by other Europeans were able to make so much success for themselves and build such a great culture. You're blowing in this way out of proportion.

miacrow2 (Monday 1st of December 2008 12:11:10 AM)

it has nothing to do with the length of time that my parents have been in the country. i am part native hawaiian, have lived in hawaii all my life, go to a school that is for hawaiians and have learned about the hawaiian culture from the time i entered school, but i'm not proud to be hawaiian. its a part of me, but its a part of me i had no control over. you should look up the word pride and think about whether that really describes your feelings towards the fact that you were born irish.

irishprideyank (Monday 1st of December 2008 12:02:13 AM)

I get where you're coming from but I don't agree with you. Maybe we just view pride differently, but my politically-correct excuse is that I'm proud of what my people have accomplished. I don't see anything wrong in being proud of what makes you you. Maybe it's different for you because your family has been here longer than mine so you're just American, but when you're so closed to the original culture like I am (my parents are from IReland), it's hard not to be proud.

miacrow2 (Sunday 30th of November 2008 11:47:22 PM)

i am ethnically irish so your last statement is stupid and it goes against the idea that you don't think the irish are better. i just said why i object to the use of the word pride. you can't be proud of something you didn't accomplish because you had nothing to do with it. you are feeling admiration for their accomplishments, not pride. unless you PERSONALLY accomplish something, you shouldn't be proud of it. and if you do accomplish something, then what does it have to do with your race?

miacrow2 (Sunday 30th of November 2008 09:04:40 PM)

im french and irish so fuck you

miacrow2 (Sunday 30th of November 2008 09:02:49 PM)

this is simply not true. i am 3/8 chinese but do not identify at all with traditional chinese culture, have no desire to go to china and think it is a generally shitty country to live in. the place of my birth has affected me far more than where my distant ancestors were born. i am not even sure of a quarter of my ethnicities and have no idea how much of each ethnicity i am (except chinese).

irishprideyank (Sunday 30th of November 2008 09:01:03 PM)

malark321- I never said I knew better, you're the one who told me I wasn't Irish. Just calm down man. I just said I was proud of my culture, and that I was 100% Irish, and then you start attacking me and accusing me of saying I know better. I'm sorry if it offends you that I'm Irish too, but that's too bad cuz I most definitely am and I'm proud of that and you can't take that away from me now matter how much you curse or type nasty messages to me.

irishprideyank (Sunday 30th of November 2008 08:58:28 PM)

I'm proud of what my people have done in the past and what they continue to do. Nice try though. I never said my race was better than anyone's so shut the fuck up, please. Being Irish is not an accomplishment, but what our people have done IS. Therefore, I take pride in being part of this great group of people. There are two types of people in this world: those who are Irish, and those who wish they were. Obviously you're the latter.

miacrow2 (Sunday 30th of November 2008 08:51:25 PM)

pride implies that you have done something to deserve being of a particular ethnicity and that you ethnicity/ethnicities are somehow better than other ethnicities and the rhetoric used by people that are proud of their ethnicity is often racism. identifying with traditional irish culture is very different from being proud to be irish. pride suggests that being irish is an accomplishment of some sort, which it is clearly not.