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kidd94 (Friday 19th of December 2008 09:40:14 AM)

This guys makes a great point when it comes to Modes. The chord progression makes the mode more so than the scale. AM chord, with C major scale brings out the Aeolian mode. Chord progressions set the tonality or the mood of the song.

94LesPaul (Thursday 18th of December 2008 08:05:43 AM)

It must be cold in the room he's in.

jaysardonic (Monday 1st of December 2008 07:53:46 AM)

Right, so if you separate the m7 chord from a key, then you can play several modes on top of it. But once its incorporated into a key / melody / song, then its that key that determines the mode of the m7 chord and not the chord itself. So how come i often hear jazz musicians say "think chord not key"?

jaysardonic (Sunday 30th of November 2008 06:59:06 AM)

I wasnt talkin bout a song, but just the diatonic sequence (C,Dm,Em,F,etc) In a song you can hear it too tho, if you play it reeeaaal slow ;)

jaysardonic (Sunday 30th of November 2008 06:56:22 AM)

I wasnt talkin bout a song, but just the diatonic sequence (C,Dm,Em,F,G,etc). In a song you can hear it too tho, if you play it reeeaaal slow ;)

pfelice157 (Sunday 30th of November 2008 07:18:37 AM)

Okay, so you're just saying if you play the C major chord with the notes of the C-major scaled, you hear Ionian. Then, if you stop playing, then start anew with the D-minor chord but continue to play the notes of the C-major scale, you'll hear Dorian. That would be correct, but that wasn't the point of this lesson, if I understood correctly; so you're making a separate point. :)

jaysardonic (Sunday 30th of November 2008 02:13:29 PM)

So which mode would Am7-Bm7 be then? (sorry John, dont wanna mess up your lessons)

pfelice157 (Sunday 30th of November 2008 05:05:20 PM)

While we are derailing just a bit, I think it's important to note that it's really not possible to name a sequential chord progression and then definitively say "this is in X mode." Modes are a product of the context of the song. If you played a chord progression that went Am-F-C, you could say it's in Aeolian mode - UNLESS that's just the verse or bridge, and th chorus is C-Am-F-G, which is pretty clearly Ionian. It's all about the context in which the chords occur.

jaysardonic (Monday 1st of December 2008 03:20:17 AM)

So what are you saying? When playing an Am7 and the key is G, then you dont play dorian over the Am7?

pfelice157 (Monday 1st of December 2008 05:50:23 AM)

In a sense, yeah, that's what I'm saying. If they key is G-major (aka Ionian) and you're using G-major notes for your lead, and the next chord is Am7, and you keep playing the G-major notes, then you're NOT in dorian mode, even though the notes for A-dorian are the same as for G-major. For the key of G, if you want dorian, you must play G-dorian notes. Simply moving to the next chord but keeping the same notes does not change your mode.